Going back to aluminums and staying there

[buckeyebowhunter]

Beeman, what weight is your setup you're shooting the 2219s out of?

Here are two kills from last year with 2219s
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[Eecho]

Yep, have a bunch of carbons, but went back to 2016s and 1916s for 40-45LB bows

[beemann]

Buckeye Im shooting the 2219's out of my 70@30  30.5 inches long with a 160 grain vpa 3 blade 620 grains total....  2216's out of the 60 @30

[buckeyebowhunter]

You think i could get 2219s flying good out of a 62lb recurve? I have a ton of 2219s and just built a 62lber i plan to hunt with this fall. I usually try to run about 200 grains up front. Usually with Snuffers

[NinjaVanish]

Buckeye Im shooting the 2219's out of my 70@30  30.5 inches long with a 160 grain vpa 3 blade 620 grains total....  2216's out of the 60 @30

That VPA 3 blade is so sweet. I ran a 190 on a 2117 through one last year. Bounded off about 15 yards and tipped over. Heart shots tend to do that. 

[beemann]

Buckeye Im sure you could been wondering the same thing myself.  But it may end up being heavier than you want...  Im not an extreme heavy shaft guy but who knows build some up and see what ya come up with.  I would love to hear how it shoots... And how heavy you have to weight the front... good luck.. 

[Overspined]

What would be a good size aluminum arrow suggestion for a 40 lb recurve pulling 44# at 29.5"...?

Probably 1916 but if you shoot over 125 grain head it'll bump you up to 2016. Like all things arrows you have to tune them. Actually recurve you're probably 2016 and with a heavier head 2018 due to being more center shot I'm assuming.

[Steve Clandinin]

Rich, with your setup you could go with a 1916 or even a 1816 depending on the weight up front, easily up to 175 grains.

[trad_bowhunter1965]

Do any of you guys still have the nock cleaner tool? I don't know if that is the name but it really clean off all the glue and bit of nock. I which I still had mine it would work great on wood as well.

[Hermon]

Do any of you guys still have the nock cleaner tool? I don't know if that is the name but it really clean off all the glue and bit of nock. I which I still had mine it would work great on wood as well.

I still have mine.

[beemann]

Like this Blake?  Mine is still going strong don't know what I would do without it.....[attachment=1][attachment=2]

[trad_bowhunter1965]

Like this Blake?  Mine is still going strong don't know what I would do without it.....[attachment=1,msg3007246][attachment=2,msg3007246]

Yes sir that's the one.

[RIVERWOLF]

sweet...Like to have one of those .  Fixing to do some fixing myself this morning....Standard protocol for me....a paring knife  and a little sand paper.   Don't nobody Rat me out on the paring knife. I sharpen it  after !   

[M60gunner]

I have one of those gizmos as well. I made a tag for it so when it ends up on the yard sale table it has a name.

[hvyhitter]

Never drank the carbon kool-aid. I just keep buying them when I find them in the sizes I use so I must be up to about  2K shafts and arrows by now. I can usually choose between two sizes for whatever bow I shoot and prefer the smaller dia and thicker/heavier shafts for my hunting arrows. You cant beat the ease of cutting with a tubing cutter, use hotmelt glue and being able to scrape off old fletching without trashing the shaft. I can also get most bent ones straight enough to keep shooting for practice........YMMV

[Buzzard2]

I will only shoot aluminum.  I have switched to an old recurve crossbow because I have very bad arthritis and cannot come to full draw anymore, even with a low draw weight bow, I tried.  I stocked up on 2219 raw shafts to make my own.  It looks like aluminum is not at all popular anymore. 

[NY Yankee]

Three Rivers is selling Easton Autumn Orange XX75, Camo Hunter, and Black Gamegetters. There is always something on Ebay too. I just bought a set of 2018 A.O. and am refletching them now with my color of feathers. Gotta keep checking.

[Kelly]

Way back when I started on this journey back in the early 1960's I shot wood. Then when I started to make my own arrows and went way up in bow weight shot aluminums because of their consistency, 2216 & 2219's. After a few years went back to woods for the next 4+ decades.

Now in my sixth decade seeing a severe drop in bow weight due to some health issues and age I tried aluminums again. Had acquired a good supply of 1820's, including original green Gamegetters, over the years so they were the first ones I used again. They shot great out of my low 40# bows, even some upper 30's. They are about the toughest shafts ever made. The 20 wall shafts used to be available in every dia from 16-20 size. Easton gradually eliminated then because of this toughness repeat sales were far and tween. They found that thinner wall stuff like 12 and 13 sizes were the rage for speed and broke/bent so repeat sales were numerous.

About 18 months ago after having to drop bow weight farther, now 25-33#, and the lack of quality low spined woods I started shooting 1713, 1716, 1813, 1816 sizes along with some 1718's. These 1718's, only have about 20 shafts, are the old silver 24srt aluminum, but man do they ever shoot out of 30-32# bows with up to 200 grains up front. Mind you my draw length has also decreased due to the same above circumstances now maybe 27" on a good day.

I still couldn't get away from woodies and recently made up 3 dz from low spined, old POC I acquired. They shoot great and grouped well so I thought. Even split several from Robin Hood type shots. When shooting aluminums recently have Robin hooded 3 and several near more that busted out the nock end-just didn't stick.

Yesterday was the first day in 7-10 days where the weather cooperated with 50 degree weather with some wind, but I was able to shoot. I shot my 31# longbow and those newly made woodies that I have been using since making them. They didn't group as well as I was used to but put that off to having not shot any bow for awhile. So after about 30-32 shots I decided to grab 4 1816's. Wow, using the same 31# longbow I had been shooting with the woods my resulting groups were so much tighter. As I continued shooting the 1816's they were clanking on top of each other so I had to move my aiming spots around. You see there are no targets on my straw bales but after one arrows is in it I tend to shoot at that, thus over time I break nocks quite frequently, even Robin Hood's in the past.

So what all this is about and what I have noticed in the past 18 months is that although I love my woodies these aluminums just shoot better and group more consistently, time after time. Reluctantly I am putting my woodies in my rack and shooting/going hunting with aluminums.

Because of my short draw, low bow weights and 28" bop arrow length I am able to shoot 1716, 1813, and 1816 with 125-200 grain points out of my 30-34# bows equally.

[kopfjaeger]

I started bowhunting in 1969. I started with cedar arrows then for a couple years in the 1970s I used aluminum arrows, then went back to wood arrows again until 2020. I went back to aluminum arrows in 2021, and bow hunted with them in 2021, 2022, 2023, and this year (2024). I still like my wood arrows, but I also like aluminum arrows.

[rich k]

This is about a non-scientific sound test comparing aluminum arrows with woods and carbon for downrange sound.
Quite a number of years ago a group of my friends and I wondered about how arrows and various feather shapes create sound and therefore perhaps a reaction from the game we were hunting. We are all heard, and some of us experienced, Whitetail deer "Jumping the string"upon release. So we wondered about the sound an arrow might make as it flew through the air. Three of us stood behind a large boulder at about 20 yards downrange from the shooters. Various arrows and feather configurations were shot over us towards a 40 yard target. As we were on the down range side of the boulder we were safe. First we tried various feather configurations. As you might imagine the taller feathers were a little bit more noticeable as they passed overhead. I don't remember hearing any sound from the four-inch parabolic feathers, but the flu flus made a pretty loud "whoosh". It seemed that the length of the feathers didn't matter as much as their height. Next we compared wood shafts, aluminum and carbon. The woods were very quiet as well as the carbon. But the aluminum shafts had a slight hum to them as they passed overhead. Maybe that should be more of a concern the compound shooters as we trad hunters tend to shoot real close to our game. I don't think any of us changed our our choice of arrows because of this comparison but it was interesting.