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Rat Tail pics

Started by Lin Rhea, January 01, 2015, 08:23:00 AM

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Lin Rhea

A couple weeks back Jeff asked me to post a video of me forging a rat tail. I do not have a video but I did think to snap a couple pictures on the last one.

In this picture I just cut into the handle end from the direction opposite the rat tail. In this case the top of the handle is cut downward leaving enough meat to allow the rounding of that sharp "V" (very important)and to remain strong enough to hold a lanyard.

 

In the above picture I have made the cut and folded the tail down and bobbed off the corner of what was the square bar. That corner will cause you problems if you leave it.

Then I re heat and lay the "V" down onto the top corner of the anvil and just work the tail out a little leaving it blunt. I wait to draw it to a point till I get the taper drawn into the full tang. Right now, it is thick and will withstand heat better and stuck outward and out of the way.

 

In the next picture the tang has been tapered and I start the curl. Here I see that I want to do some refining of the tail so I leave it opened up so I can access it with a file.

 
 
I file it till I am happy with it then close it up. I actually went back and refined it more after heat treat. I used a chainsaw files and needle files.

 
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Lin Rhea

"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

4runr

Lin, I like all your work, but this one takes the cake. Every de"tail" just kicks!

The thumb rest and the little detail just forward of where the Sheep horn scale ends. AWESOME!
Kenny

Christ died to save me, this I read
and in my heart I find a need
of Him to be my Savior
         By Aaron Shuste

TGMM Family of the Bow

tomsm44

Awesome.  I also like the detail in front of the scales.  The one thing about this style knife that I wasn't really fond of was that area.  The squared off scales and the extra long ricasso area that resulted from the forged guard seemed to leave the earlier ones you've shared with an almost unfinished look, like it should have a bolster or something.  Kinda like a painting with a big blank white spot in the middle That little carved detail is perfect for filling in that blank spot.  You found the smile for your Mona Lisa.

Matt
Matt Toms

Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

Lin Rhea

Thanks fellers.

Kenny, the tails joke is a good one.  :)

I was thinking that I had to do something in that blank area to give it some sparkle. I looked up some flowers on the internet and picked one to file. Its not too hard to make so I will be using that again in a full round on the pommel of a knife.
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

D.Ellis

Cool progress pics Lin.
That's a wicked looking recurve on that blade.   :thumbsup:  

Darcy
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

tippit

Lin,
Perfect!!  Now I have the concept.  Thanks...Jeff
TGMM Family of the Bow
VP of Consumption MK,LLC

Lin Rhea

Thanks fellers.

Kenny, the tails joke is a good one.  :)

I was thinking that I had to do something in that blank area to give it some sparkle. I looked up some flowers on the internet and picked one to file. Its not too hard to make so I will be using that again in a full round on the pommel of a knife.
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Steve Nuckels

That knife is so cool!

Lin, congrats you getting into the finals Best Bowie  On Blade Forum!  Great entries!

Steve
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Potomac Forge
Member, W.F. Moran Foundation

bjansen

Excellent and very helpful Lin.  I would not have thought of the first step (making the cut) to get your tail piece.  I am going to try this very soon.

Locogear

Wow that's amazing!! I'd love to learn how to blacksmith like that. I've tried it but I could never get the metal to fold right, maybe I just couldn't get my forge hot enough, idk.
The Swamp Bunny

MattyB83

Amazing work. Very unique knife.

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