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Delta 4 blade

Started by Iowabowhunter, August 14, 2024, 06:35:11 PM

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Iowabowhunter

Like to see animals taken as well as bloodtrail pics if you have any, from animals taken with the Zwickey Delta 4 blades.

Would be helpful to know the bow & arrow setup as well.

Lastly-what method do you use to sharpen? I've tried Terry's method, just haven't gotten em as sharp as I'd like (user error for sure)
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kopfjaeger

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Here is one of the black bears I killed with a Zwickey Delta 4 blade in New Brunswick Canada. I was bowhunting with a Dick Robertson Montana Falcon Takedown recurve (65#@28"). Arrow was a tapered maple arrow that I made. The arrow was fletched with three 5 1/2" banana fletching with a helical left-hand twist and weighted 650 grains. And the broadhead was sharpened with a file. The arrow hit the bear right behind the left shoulder and was a complete pass through and was sticking in the ground. The bear only went approx 50 yards. I killed some other game animals with them, but I can't remember which ones because I've used a variety of different broadheads in 55 years.
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Iowabowhunter

Quote from: kopfjaeger on August 14, 2024, 06:55:16 PM
Here is one of the black bears I killed with a Zwickey Delta 4 blade in New Brunswick Canada. I was bowhunting with a Dick Robertson Montana Falcon Takedown recurve (65#@28"). Arrow was a tapered maple arrow that I made. The arrow was fletched with three 5 1/2" banana fletching with a helical left-hand twist and weighted 650 grains. And the broadhead was sharpened with a file. The arrow hit the bear right behind the left shoulder and was a complete pass through and was sticking in the ground. The bear only went approx 50 yards. I killed some other game animals with them, but I can't remember which ones because I've used a variety of different broadheads in 55 years.

Nice bear!
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Bowguy67

I don't use em anymore but here's the last animal I took with one
62" Robertson Primal Overdrive 57lbs
62" Robertson Primal Overdrive 52lbs
62" Robertson Primal Overdrive 53lbs
62" Robertson Fatal Styx 47lbs
64" Toelke Whip 52lbs
58" Black Widow PSA 64lbs
62" Black Widow PSA 54lbs
60" Bighorn Grand Slam 60lbs
60" Bear Kodiak Hunter 50lbs painted black. My uncles bow. He may be gone but his spirit isn't. Bow will hunt again
52" Bear Kodiak Magnum 50lbs

Orion

The Alaskan Yukon moose in my avatar was taken with a Zwickey 4-blade delta on a 725 grain birch arrow out of a 66# Robertson longbow.  On new heads, I start with a file to even out the triple thickness tip with the rest of the blade.  Then I go to Tru-angle hones of coarse and fine grit to sharpen the main blades.  I use a 6-inch file to sharpen the bleeders, and then drag them backward on the hones.  Everything ends up very sharp. 

Rob Emerson

What broadhead are you shooting now, and what are you planning on hunting?  Weren't you shooting VPA 3 blades?

Bowguy67

Rob it's hard to tell who you are asking the question to?
62" Robertson Primal Overdrive 57lbs
62" Robertson Primal Overdrive 52lbs
62" Robertson Primal Overdrive 53lbs
62" Robertson Fatal Styx 47lbs
64" Toelke Whip 52lbs
58" Black Widow PSA 64lbs
62" Black Widow PSA 54lbs
60" Bighorn Grand Slam 60lbs
60" Bear Kodiak Hunter 50lbs painted black. My uncles bow. He may be gone but his spirit isn't. Bow will hunt again
52" Bear Kodiak Magnum 50lbs

Rob Emerson

I'm asking the question to the OP. 

Iowabowhunter

Quote from: Rob Emerson on August 15, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
I'm asking the question to the OP.

I brought VPA 1 1/4 3 blades on my bear hunt. Unfortunately still trying for my 1st trad animal.

If I could figure out how to sharpen the Zwickey's I'd definitely use them, just love how they look as a traditional broadhead.

Plus just finished Monty Brownings new moose hunting book (FANTASTIC btw) and that helped make up my mind.

Nothing wrong with the VPA's by any means & I can get them stupid sharp with my diamond stones. Just want to figure out the Delta's is all
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Iowabowhunter

Quote from: Orion on August 15, 2024, 01:05:37 PM
The Alaskan Yukon moose in my avatar was taken with a Zwickey 4-blade delta on a 725 grain birch arrow out of a 66# Robertson longbow.  On new heads, I start with a file to even out the triple thickness tip with the rest of the blade.  Then I go to Tru-angle hones of coarse and fine grit to sharpen the main blades.  I use a 6-inch file to sharpen the bleeders, and then drag them backward on the hones.  Everything ends up very sharp.

Where do you find those Tru Angle hones?
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Rob Emerson

Quote from: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rob Emerson on August 15, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
I'm asking the question to the OP.

I brought VPA 1 1/4 3 blades on my bear hunt. Unfortunately still trying for my 1st trad animal.

If I could figure out how to sharpen the Zwickey's I'd definitely use them, just love how they look as a traditional broadhead.

Plus just finished Monty Brownings new moose hunting book (FANTASTIC btw) and that helped make up my mind.

Nothing wrong with the VPA's by any means & I can get them stupid sharp with my diamond stones. Just want to figure out the Delta's is all

Well, if you're after big blood trails the 3 blades like the VPA and snuffer are where it's at.  The snuffer is all I've ever really shot.  I thought you might be after some bigger game where you didn't feel comfortable with a 3 blade.  Good luck with the Delta's.  I know RMSG makes a jig for 2 blades that's pretty slick.  I would imagine it would work on those Zwickey heads.

Iowabowhunter

Quote from: Rob Emerson on August 16, 2024, 09:13:00 AM
Quote from: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 08:18:14 AM
Quote from: Rob Emerson on August 15, 2024, 07:56:04 PM
I'm asking the question to the OP.

I brought VPA 1 1/4 3 blades on my bear hunt. Unfortunately still trying for my 1st trad animal.

If I could figure out how to sharpen the Zwickey's I'd definitely use them, just love how they look as a traditional broadhead.

Plus just finished Monty Brownings new moose hunting book (FANTASTIC btw) and that helped make up my mind.

Nothing wrong with the VPA's by any means & I can get them stupid sharp with my diamond stones. Just want to figure out the Delta's is all

Well, if you're after big blood trails the 3 blades like the VPA and snuffer are where it's at.  The snuffer is all I've ever really shot.  I thought you might be after some bigger game where you didn't feel comfortable with a 3 blade.  Good luck with the Delta's.  I know RMSG makes a jig for 2 blades that's pretty slick.  I would imagine it would work on those Zwickey heads.

Our whitetail are pretty sturdy here in Iowa haha! I am hopefully that I will move back to Montana eventually, and am going to be taking some serious Western/Alaska hunts eventually
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Orion

Unfortunately, I don't think tru-angle hones are made anymore, but you can still find them on the big auction site occasionally.  I forgot one step in my process.  After beveling the tip to match the rest of the blade, I true up the main blade bevel with a tru-angle file block before going to the hones.  The file block treatment would probably be sharp enough, but the hones polish the blade.  I've also seen a leather tru-angle strop to give the blade the final touch, but I don't own one of those.

If you can't find the hones, you can get Zwickeys just about as sharp with a file and ceramic stick.  Folks have been doing that for more than 50 years. 

Iowabowhunter

Quote from: Orion on August 16, 2024, 12:43:19 PM
Unfortunately, I don't think tru-angle hones are made anymore, but you can still find them on the big auction site occasionally.  I forgot one step in my process.  After beveling the tip to match the rest of the blade, I true up the main blade bevel with a tru-angle file block before going to the hones.  The file block treatment would probably be sharp enough, but the hones polish the blade.  I've also seen a leather tru-angle strop to give the blade the final touch, but I don't own one of those.

If you can't find the hones, you can get Zwickeys just about as sharp with a file and ceramic stick.  Folks have been doing that for more than 50 years.

I'm terrible with a file lol, need more practice & instruction I suppose
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trad_bowhunter1965

I watched Mr Terry Green sharpen a 4 blade Zwickey last year
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Iowabowhunter

Quote from: trad_bowhunter1965 on August 16, 2024, 03:56:37 PM
I watched Mr Terry Green sharpen a 4 blade Zwickey last year
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=121911.0

Can't seem to get the hang of it. I'd seen those in the past. Course won't work on my phone haha.
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Iowabowhunter

Doesn't look like Tru Angle is in business anymore.

I see Ozcut makes an angle sharpener, I think this would work?
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Terry Green

I agree that 3 blades leave good blood trails, but don't even think about dissing Delta Four Blades  on their blood trails.  :nono: :nono: :nono:

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Quote from: Iowabowhunter on August 16, 2024, 04:10:19 PM
Quote from: trad_bowhunter1965 on August 16, 2024, 03:56:37 PM
I watched Mr Terry Green sharpen a 4 blade Zwickey last year
https://www.tradgang.com/tgsmf/index.php?topic=121911.0

Can't seem to get the hang of it. I'd seen those in the past. Course won't work on my phone haha.

There are a TON of videos on here that need to be converted as the old format is not working any longer. Some of the videos on here are 20 years old.
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