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Forging Hammers

Started by tippit, January 13, 2008, 04:47:00 PM

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tomh

I am heading to Ed Caffrey's next month to take his beginning forging class. So guess I will get to check out his hammers up close. They Look pretty nice in his video. I will give a report when I get back.

Jeremy

Ever given any thought to a treadle hammer Doc?  They don't look too hard to make...
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tippit

Jeremy,  I think the power hammer would be more versatile for general forging and for making damascus steel vs a press or a treadle hammer.  I maybe wrong since my experience is limited there.

tomh,  That should be one heck of a course!  We all expect details when you get back...enjoy  :wavey:  Doc
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Jeremy

Yeah, I was just thinking that $100 in scrounged parts is a whole lot more in reach than the serious cash for a power hammer.
I think the only advantage of the treadle hammer over a power hammer would be the ability to control/change the power of each blow.  I don't know much about power hammers though - do they have some sort of foot operated control, or is it full power with each strike?
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tippit

Foot operated for the speed of the hit.
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Jeremy

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drewsbow

man I have lots to learn :0)
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Missouri Sherpa

Working steel is on my short list of things to do.  I have bid on several powerhammers on **** but I have seen most of them sell for 2000-3000 depending on their condition, which is more than I care to spend on anything except maybe a real fine horse.  I have several old truck springs, railroad ties, Ibeam steel etc. that could be fashioned into a power hammer.  I am planning to build my own powerhammer this spring when things warm up a little bit.  I came across the appalachian power hammer with my online searches and I ordered my plans from these people:

http://www.appaltree.net/rusty/super_rusty.htm

Jeremy

My father and his buddy are building a power hammer based on the appalachian plans. They should have finished it by now, but I think ice fishing got in the way of smithing.  Don't make sense to me: spend the cold winter months on a wind swept frozen lake or spend them sweating in front of a coal fired forge.  Kind of a no-brainer if you ask me!  :D
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fisk

For hand hammers I use only the Japenese style and the swedish style. Odd combo I guess but that is what I ended up doing best with

Lin Rhea

Hey Jerry! I'm glad you stopped in! Let's go huntin.

Guys, Jerry Fisk is one of the best at forging blades. I hope yall get a chance to see some of them sometime.

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Jeremy

The Jerry Fisk?!!
Sir, I've been admiring your your knives for years!
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Jeremy

Huh, I started to stutter there for some reason!   :biglaugh:
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fisk

Hey Lin, Karl, good to be here. My fingers are doing better so I will try shooting the bow more for awhile and see how that goes.
I am putting a small hunt together if all goes well the week after Arkansas show when Ricardo is here. Should know within two weeks how that is going.

kbaknife

I was invited on an outing down yonder, but I'm afraid I have to opt out. I heard you and Lin would both be there.
We'll see - it's still 50/50.
Single digits here tomorrow, so the South looks pretty inviting!
For you guys "building" power hammers, I would  have my own opinion. If I was to invest a little money in something home-built, and hope for great success, I would put it in a press! Power hammers just require too much precision, and I think you might end up with issues right off the bat, or in the future.
I'm building my own press, and I HAVE a power hammer.
I vote for the press if your only options are to home-build.
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When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
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Doug Campbell

What are you thinking for your press Karl? I've had my hammer for several years and had intentions of building a press for years too just never have gotten around to it. I've played with a couple different presses and like what I see a bunch... someday....
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kbaknife

I just emailed a file to you on press building. Mine will end up something like 28 tons with a 5 inch cylinder.
Hopefully I'll have it up and running this Spring before the Blade Show.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

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