I hunt coyotes and other varmints with a 5.56. Albeit not with armor piercing bullets. The government only needs to fear that ammo, if they were to do something to warrant the use of it against them. In the mean time, don't take away my ability to protect my family and my God given rights from threats, both foreign and domestic.  Don't tread on me.

This doesn't surprise me at all. The president has blatantly ignored the constitution for the last 6 years.
Actually it's been going on for years. We need not think our rights are secured as far as any kind of hunting goes.
Yep, different world that's escalated toward progressive liberal agendas. 1918 till the present, like a snowball rolling down hill.

Members that don't like this thread should just bypass it and scroll on down to another thread. It's not hurting you if you don't stop to read it. No one made you click on it.

I too am sorry that this thread is here BUT This does concern us trad hunters

Look at the price of arrows and feathers, you can thank our government for that.

I am not about to let this pass. The alternative is a descent into the crap that pollutes so many other hunting forums.

eidsvolling it's not up to you. If people have an opinion,they should be allowed to voice it. This topic has found the correct place to be now that it has been moved by the TradGang powers that be. Not you. Contribute to this forum if you want to hold stake in the matters of things. rat'

X10 what riverrat 2 has to say.  I just hope the nay sayers dont complain when things go south! !!!!!

doug77

Bows and arrows, guns and ammo, hunting and fishing.

Bottom line is that they are all considered the same evil to the liberals in power in Washington and in certain states. We must hang together or certainly we will hang separately.

I have been just a little surprised that some don't feel this thread is related to archery. When the government and other activist groups make sufficient headway in restricting firearms, does anybody really think  their incursion into our personal rights will stop? No, we archers are on their hit list, they just haven't gotten around to us yet, unless, of course, you consider the restrictions on hunting that have been implemented in various areas.

I understand those that want to maintain their identity as traditional archers only, and feel this thread doesn't belong......BUT traditional archery is a shooting sport and there are a lot of people who are against all hunting and shooting! They will chip away, one little piece at a time.  After each success they will look for more, eventually they will get to issues that affect traditional archery.....don't think so? Aren't thee already states that restrict shipping on knives? Air guns? Think a ban on shipping anything classed as a "weapon" is far fetched? Maybe today.....but what about tomorrow?  These "armor piercing" rounds that are being banned weren't even considered armor piercing until recently and by some definitions they still do not fall into the armor piercing category. And how many crimes are committed with the ammo being banned? My guess is hardly any! My point is there are times we need to address things beyond our interests for the greater good, and I believe this is one of those times.  Every battle against the shooting sports should be fought by everyone because win or lose, there will be another battle shortly.

Posted at the top of THIS forum (Hunting Legislation & Policies) is the following:

"3)While we strive to maintain Traditional cast to this forum, some topics impact hunting in general and some leeway will be allowed. But no gun specific threads."

I'm having a very hard time understanding why some moderator saw fit to keep this thread alive by moving it here. I'll be voting with my feet if this thread isn't deleted entirely within the next several hours.

I have had it up to here with the sentiments expressed in this thread (which are so typical of the rants on other hunting forums), and I never imagined they would survive moderator scrutiny this long here.

What does 'voting with my feet mean'?

Are you with George or the so called king?

QuoteOriginally posted by eidsvolling:

I'm having a very hard time understanding why some moderator saw fit to keep this thread alive by moving it here. I'll be voting with my feet if this thread isn't deleted entirely within the next several hours.

I have had it up to here with the sentiments expressed in this thread (which are so typical of the rants on other hunting forums), and I never imagined they would survive moderator scrutiny this long here.

And just why do you think you can demand that a thread be removed that has attracted a lot of interest and been checked by the moderator and moved to this proper forum?  If you have had it with this thread, just don't open it any more.  How hard would that be?        Maybe there is a reason that folks on other hunting forums are upset about such incursions on our freedoms and wish to speak out.  Please do yourself a favor and read other posts.

God bless the moderators that understand "Hunting topics and Legislation threads" are threads in which...ONE SWORD SHARPENS THE OTHER. DEBATE IS HEALTHY. making things "go away" for 1 person when thousands others may wish to read opinion of said thread is not the way of a free society. Communist maybe. Other hunting forums? would'nt know. I only support this forum. I guess I'm just narrow minded. Thats ok though..I like me.  rat'

QuoteOriginally posted by eidsvolling:
Posted at the top of THIS forum (Hunting Legislation & Policies) is the following:

"3)While we strive to maintain Traditional cast to this forum, some topics impact hunting in general and some leeway will be allowed. But no gun specific threads."

I'm having a very hard time understanding why some moderator saw fit to keep this thread alive by moving it here. I'll be voting with my feet if this thread isn't deleted entirely within the next several hours.

I have had it up to here with the sentiments expressed in this thread (which are so typical of the rants on other hunting forums), and I never imagined they would survive moderator scrutiny this long here.

When the mods refer to "gun specific threads" I assume that they mean a certain type of gun or brand.

Please click on the link below to read what moderator Mr. Rob says about this and similar topics. Or, scroll on down a bit in this very forum and read it there. You will see that he is very much pro-gun and believes that sometimes these topics are allowed because of the importance of the Second Amendment and the importance of defending it by all sportsmen, even trad archers.  

http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=93;t=000562

From the  User Agreement Review :

"A. Please treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy you expect from others, no matter how difficult that may be. There will be no flaming, hate, politics, religion, sex, sports or drug discussions here. There will be NO discussion or multi-media of non-trad archery hunting weapons such as guns, compound bows, spears, atlatls, throwing knives or hawks, etc."

How amusing to see that so many of you are willing to disregard the rules we agreed to when it suits your particular political agenda.

I have to ask yet again eidsvolling, are you with George Washington or the so called 'king' and the henchmites?

QuoteOriginally posted by eidsvolling:
From the  User Agreement Review :

"A. Please treat everyone with the same respect and courtesy you expect from others, no matter how difficult that may be. There will be no flaming, hate, politics, religion, sex, sports or drug discussions here. There will be NO discussion or multi-media of non-trad archery hunting weapons such as guns, compound bows, spears, atlatls, throwing knives or hawks, etc."

How amusing to see that so many of you are willing to disregard the rules we agreed to when it suits your particular political agenda.

If you are against threads such as this........why are you posting in it?

Also, why are there no answers to the questions?

Typical of BHAAAA!!!

QuoteOriginally posted by eidsvolling:
From the  User Agreement Review :.......How amusing to see that so many of you are willing to disregard the rules we agreed to when it suits your particular political agenda......

How amusing it is to try to make you see that you don't make the decisions here, the mods do.

Did you not click on the link I supplied for you to read from Mr. Rob, one of the mods???