QuoteOriginally posted by mnbwhtr:
The way Minnesota statutes are written, crossbows are NOT bows. Let's stay within the law.

Exactly my point..

Good riddence to short cuts....

I hope Minnesota has common sense to this crap

I understand WI just fell.  I think the vote was 91-0.

MN will fall as well.

xbows are defined as archery equipment and taxed as such by the IRS.

while I havent read MN regulations, I am pretty confidant they recognize them as bows too.

The last time this came up, the crossbow people tried to slip it through by changing the wording in the statutes, it didn't work so they got them added to the firearms season. Probably should read the statutes before you comment.

if you would be so kind as post to post a link..

I really doubt that MN defines xbows as a type of firearm.

legal BoWs anD aRRoWs FoR Big game
• Bows must have a pull no less than 30 pounds at or before full draw.
• Arrowheads used for taking big game must be sharp, have a minimum
of two metal cutting edges, be of barbless broadhead design, and have a
diameter of at least ⅞ inch.
• "Expandable" broadheads may be used to take big game if they meet
the requirements above and: 1) are at least ⅞ inch in width and no more
than 2 inches in width at or after impact; and 2) are of a barbless design
and function in a barbless manner.
• No person may hunt with a bow drawn, held, or released by a mechanical
device, except disabled hunters who have a crossbow permit.
• A hand-held mechanical release attached to the bowstring may be used
if the person's own strength draws and holds the bowstring.

oh ok

so a bow that pulls 25lbs isnt a bow according to MN statute?


you are talking legal bows-it doesnt say xbows aren't bows.

didnt think it would

Wisconsin didn't "fall" or recognize them as bows.  They have their own season and their own licence.  They will have their own tally of kills and percent success rate.  THAT is what we wanted.

The tide is already changing,  Deer numbers are down, at least in WI and there are already too many people going after too few resources.  Like a lot of places.

And. .  most important.

CROSSBOWS ARE NOT BOWS.

ChuckC

double post

Basically what you are saying Cold Weather is, anything goes.  If someone can shoot it and wants to hunt with it, then they should push their beliefs down everyone's throat.  Furthermore everyone should be expected to accept it.

I want to hunt with a fully automatic rifle,  Maybe I can get that passed somewhere?

I will contact my legislators.  In MN you can use a crossbow for turkey, bear, during the regular firearms season and with a disability permit during the archery season. Not enough for yea?
The only reason the crossbow is defined as archery equipment is because of the ATA and the IRS, sure it my be law but...
A crossbow is a crossbow...
A bow and arrow is a bow and arrow....
I'm not aware of any time in the vast history of both weapon types that there was any confusion about which was archery and which was not.  The ATA got their way and the IRS get the tax on gear.  
I for one will never consider a crossbow a piece of archery equipment.  A crossbow is a crossbow.  It is a stocked weapon that can be loaded with bolt in place and held indefinitely until a trigger is pulled.  A bow and arrow works a little differently as we know.  Hunt with what  you like during the appropriate season, but don't try to pass off the use of a crossbow as a piece of archery equipment.

QuoteOriginally posted by mjh:
I will contact my legislators.  In MN you can use a crossbow for turkey, bear, during the regular firearms season and with a disability permit during the archery season. Not enough for yea?
The only reason the crossbow is defined as archery equipment is because of the ATA and the IRS, sure it my be law but...
A crossbow is a crossbow...
A bow and arrow is a bow and arrow....
I'm not aware of any time in the vast history of both weapon types that there was any confusion about which was archery and which was not.  The ATA got their way and the IRS get the tax on gear.  
I for one will never consider a crossbow a piece of archery equipment.  A crossbow is a crossbow.  It is a stocked weapon that can be loaded with bolt in place and held indefinitely until a trigger is pulled.  A bow and arrow works a little differently as we know.  Hunt with what  you like during the appropriate season, but don't try to pass off the use of a crossbow as a piece of archery equipment.

Well said....  

I like what some states did to define allowable muzzleloader accessories to keep it primitive. NO optics and NO premeasured powder. Sorry, but if the ammo is held back with a trigger, it ain't a bow.

Oh, and don't read into the Wisconsin vote on how EVERYONE is on board. The industry put it out there during development of the initial bill that it was to be a separate season, then changed the language to separate license within the existing archery season in the final. By then, they had the WBH committed to bend to the industries side and then industry pushed for the additional step for near full inclusion. See how they work things? Many people were plenty steamed. Oh, and during the hearing, some lady stood up and cried about how she 'needed' a crossbow to add more opportunity for her to hunt the regular archery season. The legislators just caved.