ChuckC are you sure about that? I've heard the same thing. My reasoning would be that "probable cause" is interpeted far more leniently for game law violations.

In Missouri a game warden with "probable cause" can do a search of your property including your home and vehicle without a warrent. Just as any law enforcement officer can search your car without permission if there is a plain sight violation giving them "probible cause". "Probable cause" can be any simple thing they can find. While on that subject they can also seize your property and any property they believe was used to commit the violation from the truck to the pocket knife. I had a goodie two shoe animal lover neighbor that called the CO on me last deer season stating I must have illegally taken the deer since I didn't get home till midnight with it. Truth to it was I didn't harvest the animal till just at dark and then a half hour wait to trail it led to a 2 hr drag and then a 2 hour drive around and brag to my buddies. Anyway when he showed up he caught me on a "wantingly wasting commonly edible portions of meat" violation because I didn't take all the meat I could from the neck and part of the ribs. After that "probable cause" he entered my house took all guns, bows, racks, turkey feathers anything related to hunting or fishing to his truck and searched my freezer. Then after going thru each story of each harvest and verifing that I had tagged it properly in their computer each thing was returned to me. At the end of a very long few hours turns out I didn't do anything wrong after all.  

In Missouri you also have to decide what you are hunting as you can only have one weapon in your possesion. And "taret shooting" with any weapon on public land has to be on a "range". But hunting is allowed.

Tom

I had a warden try that with me in Calif. several years ago, and you just have to call their bluff, I did. I told him to either write me a ticket or leave me alone, he left me alone.
Bob

You can not stump shoot on public land here either unless it is during hunting season and you have a hunting license.

i dont care what they say, im still a youth so they ain gonna say anything to me. if they do oh well, work harder to avoiid them!

remember: its only illegal if you get caught!

QuoteOriginally posted by ChuckC:
Naphtali.  

No law enforcement officer in the US can make a warrantless search that I am aware of, even the Conservation wardens.   They CAN enter your private land without a warrant, but cannot come into your home for a search without a warrant.
ChuckC

They'd be looking down the wrong end of a 12 guauge side by side if they tried that around here....i'c tell em to go get a warrant, or piss up a rope....

QuoteOriginally posted by TRADITIONAL ONLY:
i don't care what they say, im still a youth so they ain gonna say anything to me. if they do oh well, work harder to avoiid them!

remember: its only illegal if you get caught!

Bad attitude son....better regroup...this is a sport we are all proud of here. if you break the rules, you are cheating....that is what they call unsportsmanlike conduct....bad dog! No gravy....

whoa!!!!!!!!!
A law enforcement officer CAN search your house without a warrant in a few circumstances!!
One is in hot pursuit. If an officer is chasing a criminal and he runs into a house- the officer does not have to have a warrant to enter the house and effect the arrest- and any illegal thing he might see in the process: is legal evidence.
In the case of an escaped convict; or lost child; it can fall under hot pursuit.
If you run into your house or garage - your domicile- and are being pursuited: don't think you can shoot it out because the officer doesn't have a warrant!!
 I once as a deputy sheriff; I approached a man carrying his 3 month old baby by its wrist- swinging it around; in an argument with his wife.
I showed up and he took off with me in pursuit; and I chased him into someone elses house- a total stranger!
 My concern was for the little girl; and the home owner agreed to take the girl at first opprotunity and run. I got the guy to hand her the child: and well the lady took off with the kid; and I took off out the door with an unconcious suspect.
 He went to jail for assault with intent to committ great bodily harm; he pulled a knife on me outside the home and my partner took him down; and he ended up with a host of charges.
 If anyone had gotten in the way of this deputy while chasing that guy- he would have met my attention- and the ground.
The little girl had a broken humerous;dislocated shoulder etc- but lived.
And the lady homeowner who grabbed that girl to safety....well her house full of marijuana plants - I turned my back on- but that was my decision!!!
 So- you see how 'hot pursuit' is an exception.
So is 'allowing the vampire in'. If you tell the officer he can search- well you forfeit your right not to be searched; as its reasonable to search with permission.
 Thing you all need to look up and find out is about the officers authority.
 By that I mean is the officer a sworn officer of the law; or just an officer.
 Used to be; that game violations were rules; not criminal acts. So; officers that enforced them did not need to be certified police officers. And with that lack of certification; they did a lot of searchs that were and continue to be illegal without consent; probable cause; or a witnessed act by the officer.
 Now; most 'conservation officers' or 'fish and game officers' are certified police officers; as values were put on game animals; and game violations became crimes.
As a certified officer; the officer MUST obey his oath; which is to respect and defend the constitution--- which includes searches!!!
A fish and game officer used to be legal searching your car; but now; they need probable cause; or a warrant; or permission.
If they say they will arrest you if you don't let them search- hey- let them arrest you. All evidence with a GOOD LAWYER will be "fruit of the poisonous tree"; and not allowable in court.
 There are officers here that issue tickets - knowing people will not fight the ticket...even though the person is not guilty... and the officers think it is funny: that they plead guilty !
 WE are all in a transition stage on the recognition of this; we can see how one officer says you need a license to shoot a bow on public land; and another says you don't.
 I bet the officer that is wrong would not accept YOUR argument of 'ignorance of the law'.
  You should not accept his or her 'ignorance of the law' either.
 We need fish and game officers; but too too often; these officers do not know the law; are fish and game officers because they cannot get a regular 'cop job'; and are working to that end- to get a 'real' cop job; and they will take prisoners to do it.
 Check your laws; and know if your in the right or wrong. Don't fight the officer if he or she is wrong; but do make sure the situation is resolved to your satisfaction -legally!!!!

Your car is not your house.  That has been established in law over the years.  If there is evidence in plain view, that can be used as probable cause TOWARD a search warrant.  As I recall, the only way that a law enforcement officer can legally enter your home without your permission is if he is in HOT PURSUIT of a felon that committed a serious crime that he witnessed, that means.... I am chasing you, you run into your home, and I run in after you with intend to arrest.  This typically does not include taking a deer out of season, but rather a murder or some such.

We do still have some rights here in the USA, but it is our job to know what they are.

TRAD ONLY.  Illegal is illegal.  Has nothing to do with getting caught.  Sounds like you are on your way to a troubled life if you really think that way.  No, it is not "cool".
ChuckC