don't want to hijack the thread.
rick, PM me if you want. cory's bull is an exceptional one! what was the gear used? what was the pre/post shot ordeal? thanks

Scrub bulls = bovine
North American Bison = bovine
cape buff = bovine
water buff = bovine

No bovine more dangerous, and killed more people, than a Holstein Bull. at the turn of the 19 century more men under 40 killed by bulls (mostly dairy) then anything else. Get up close and personal with a 3000# holstein bull and you will know what I mean. big cape buff, big water buff, big bison bull, big rodeo eared bull (Brahma cross) = 1800 pounds max.  Holstein bulls are man killers, they won't run away. Most dairy farms will not keep them around, all AI. They have killed farmers that were inside the cab of a skid loader. Those that do have them work them use only healers, (australian cattle dogs)

Make ya think again about old bossy (or at least her ol' man)

Where can I book a Holstein Bowhunt    

Sorry couldn't resist

Many years ago one of the anti-hunting groups advocated the "hunting" of domestic cattle, for some reason (attention from the press, most likely). Guess they didn't know how exciting it could be!

QuoteOriginally posted by michaelschwister:
Scrub bulls = bovine
North American Bison = bovine
cape buff = bovine
water buff = bovine

No bovine more dangerous, and killed more people, than a Holstein Bull. at the turn of the 19 century more men under 40 killed by bulls (mostly dairy) then anything else. Get up close and personal with a 3000# holstein bull and you will know what I mean. big cape buff, big water buff, big bison bull, big rodeo eared bull (Brahma cross) = 1800 pounds max.  Holstein bulls are man killers, they won't run away. Most dairy farms will not keep them around, all AI. They have killed farmers that were inside the cab of a skid loader. Those that do have them work them use only healers, (australian cattle dogs)

Make ya think again about old bossy (or at least her ol' man)

Just did a search. Big bastards.
 

At least part of the reason domestic cattle, Holstein or otherwise are successful at killing people is just a matter of opportunity. A dairy farmer is in the pasture and barn with his cattle 365 days a year AND he isn't carrying a big rifle and dosn't have a ph with a big rifle. The little time I have spent with feral cattle hunting and in mustering and in the yards with them, I have had a number of close calls and seen a LOT of VERY close calls and we were being as cautious as possible, NOT going into the yards with mature bulls, that would be just suicidal. In the scheme of things I read somewhere that annually DONKEYS kill more people worldwide than plane crashes, why? They just have more opportunity, donkeys are used all over the world everyday as transportation. They just have lots of opportunity.

Stopped by the farm we hunt to chat with the farmer and got a great "mad cow" story. Just were chatting with him and mentioned about a "stray" hereford that was in the woods last season and he mentioned that the guy just last week came and got her. Long story short this cow was nuts and would go crazy when you got near it. The guy when he came to get her didn't believe how "wild" this cow was. He took her back to his farm and put her in a pen. Some neighbor came by to see him and asked about the cow. The guy proceeded to go back to the pen and somehow this yearling(?) cow got him on the ground and started stomping him. When his buddies heard the commotion they ran back and they felt that if they hadn't been there that guy might not have made it. I can only dream of going to OZ to hunt but this cow was in the woods where we hunt and might be as close to a ferral cow as I ever come.

oh wow. if i saw one of those id be afraid to shoot haha!      :eek:

We had them on the Rio Grande Delta a few years ago. Undergrowth so high folks said you'd be crazy to go after them. Some healthy respect for these bulls. Any wild bovine would be very exciting to bowhunt. Love to read the stories too.

this is really good thread scub bulls are one of the most underated animals buy people who have never been close to one but ask anyone who has and they will all give you the same answer.
they are agro they are very aware of there surroundings and who or what is in it.
most water buff are quite curious nutil you hit them and then they get agro but scub bulls have generally been chased by station hand trying to muster them so they see or smell a human and they either charge or run like the wind for cover.
relly nice bull by the way clint

There's no way i could shoot straight on one of those crazy cows!!!!

For much of the 70's we live caught buff and scrubbers from Lake Argyle to Arnhem land. The Buff at that time were in big mobs under the led of the dominant cow. The big bulls had the life of Riley wallowing or sharpening their horns on ant hills or just resting in the paper barks. Folk should be aware as the swamps recede over the dry the fringe between thr ridges and the water line grows with nutritious feed as the water drys up. Pet meating only required dropping them in the field and dressing them from cradles on the ground. They had banned spine shooting and crocks as well by then as refrigeration and Tojos and the odd grader had made things a little more accessible. The big $ were in live animals paid by the kilo in unbruised dressed meat,hence our goal of individual selection of the biggest. The main method till then was mustering with the occasional help from a chopper. Buff because of their water weight bruise easy. A former shooter Kal Karric developed the mechanical arm, I helped and drove but mainly hased till he got ousted then Me and  Bobby Big eye kept it going. We pursued big bulls only for the export of game meat to W. Germany, and the US, later Japan, our main markets. There was only one abattoir in the alligators were most big herds still were (All human consumption had to go through this process while pet meating was still field work). From the closure of Cannon hill to us, now Kakadu National park, the Kimberlies station owners required the clean up the big roan bulls that had been loose for decades as they were trying to introduce Brahma Bulls to alter the long term production of their stations. Most remote scrubbers had never seen a ringer. The nearest abattoir's then were Katherine in the NT and Wyndham further down, where u could see crocks and tiger sharks rolling about fighting the offal pumped out into the bay. The live catching of all big animals regardless if it be horses, camels or either of these two crackers presents their own specific problems as does the terrain specific to these regions. Of the many thousands of individual animals caught and were interested in the bigguns there is no doubt of these fellas running away when chased in this manner, eventually if u loose momentum or the advantage of flanking directional dictation most would turn in a spin and charge at u and the tojo flat out with a smash send horns flying and do real damage. These fellas had NO fear. Big Buff are strong enough to rip in a horn to the belly of another bull and shake it round like a rag doll. An impression is left on one.
Dark faced scrubb bulls were always the craziest while not as strong as the muscle of a buff built up by the plodding in mud were equally dangerous. We had played with bows then but had no real access to the good stuff from the states. A few of the boys are still flinging arrows while others of us are just taking up the string again. Many of us injured and alive will argue that any other "BOVINE" whether statistically or otherwise can be as close a shave and produce the tang of adrenaline and the pucker of your nethers to this degree. Happy hunting!
R we there yet are my points building up, bugger! U all only have o put up with me for another 78 poststs

Never heard of feral cattle but I got a mate down under and I will send him a mail straightaway and see what he says about it.

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That's alot of burger!!!

Hope I get to give them a go sometime.

Is there a season them or can they be shot on sight?

No season, you just have to find a property owner that wants them killed.