Terry:

In reviewing the photos provided.....it appears to me (an admitted novice) that a lot of issues might be solved by not short-drawing.

Do you find this to be an obstacle for a lot of trad. archers?

I think there is a "bunch" of folks over bowed.... its not uncommon to hear a guy say i dropped 5-10 pounds in weight and my draw length increased 1 inch...... now they have there elbow back..not pointing too the side...and much better alignment.... Overbowed = shortdrawing.

That was sweeeet Terry.

Terry, your instruction has really helped me and also helped me show my son what he needs to practice but a question was asked, "When you reach anchor at the corner of your mouth and move to the thumb nuckle touching your jaw bone, do you stretch you mouth corner until you reach that second anchor?"  I said yes, is that correct?

That clock is a very effective reference! Too the drawing, Tho am not exactly following the colored lines of Picasso.
Great help tho! thanks all!

Terry

One question: Do you deside on an anchor point and then try and get to 'full' draw, or do you first determine full draw and then get the best possible anchor to go with your full draw? If I do the last, I add 2-3" to my drawlength.

Neather really.....it just all 'came about' while learning to shoot.

The best way to get properly aligned is to do it on the bale....and find the place to anchor with your elbow pointing at 6 o'clock....and if you can find a second(double) anchor that's even better.

Drill it in on the bale and it will happen automaticaly in the field.

And yes, I pull the corner of my lips back as I approach the 2nd anchor.

Man...I read all this at the wrong time!  It's too cold for me to shoot much now, but now I have a serious "yearning" to go out and shoot and work on this!!!!  

Gee - Thanks alot Terry!!!!    :mad:  

But seriously, this is great info, that I'm really excited about trying.  I've been complacent to believe that short drawing and snap shooting was accpetable, but I'm going to work on this.  I'm all for another inch or two of draw stroke power!!!  

Good stuff Terry, and though I know you did all this a couple of years ago, thanks for putting all that time in to do it right, with the DVD and pictorals for us!  

You guys are top-notch.

Just wanted to echo what many others have said....that clock picture really helped me out. I'm not able to get completely parallel on every shot, but at least I know what it 'should' look and feel like.

Great info here,  now I have to break out the video camera and check my form.  The clock is great!  Thanks

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well im stoaked . this thread is really takin off ,
so its helping me a bunch i read earlier in this thread last week about bringing the string to tip of nose and corner of mouth witch is funny cause i ALLWAYS teach this to compound shooters , i never thought it would work for trad , i used to anchor like gordon in my eye tooth but i had allot of inconsistancy with blurred vision "i wear glassses and have a sever stigmatisim. this anchor has made a huge diff. although its really been a strugggle to remember this new aanchor but when i do man do i drill the shot if i dont i miss right over the top . so ill just have to practice allot more to get that muscle memory. thanks for the help .
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Terry, Your Clock Picture is truly worth a thousand words. Thanks,  Pete

Wildhorse,

You should get the DVD!!!!

http://www.tradgang.com/tgstore/index.html

Thanks! that picture is starting to put it into perspective.

This is the most helpful form lesson I've noticed so far...

Awesome Guys ,
 Am pretty new to trad. bowhunting but am really enjoying it. Was so glad to read the post of how compound shooters usually take awhile to split arrows , I was starting to worry. I finished my boardbow(thnx 4est) and have been shooting for about 3-4 weeks now am trying to figure out the arrow situation and form situation, this has really helped . You all make it look so easy .
  Thanks so much everyone  P.T.

Took some photo's tonight and saw my elbow on draw hand is  high. Also saw my arrows come pass riser to my hand nuckles , errr . Will keep at it.

Terry,

Just started shooting last year,i have alot of hints from oters but this just make sence. Can't wait to use the info. Thanks

Terry,

Great job, I am sure this will help me also