terry ive used your shot clock as a refernce for a while but for some reason it didnt sink in until i saw your stick figures  esp. the last one.feels comfortable too, i must have been close before just needed a lil shove .thanks again.
keith

QuoteOriginally posted by Molson:
One other thing for the new fellows coming over from the compound.  You will not be regularly splitting nocks in two days, two weeks, or two years. Traditional archery takes time, experience, knowledge, and your commitment to achieve proficiency.  This is not a game of instant success.  Accept this now and dedicate yourself to improvement, or move on and save yourself a bunch of disappointment.

Aint that the truth...I'm very use to instant correction with my wheelie bow so trad shooting a a MAJOR change to a VERY impatient person.  I'm working very hard at correcting all my flaws.

I must say though recurves make an honest man...you can be an awsome shot w/ a compound and still have horrible habbits but a recurve will show how good your form really is.  I have some work to do....OK ALOT of work to do!

Terry please explain this "double anchor" to make sure you get back tension???

Sure,

I drag my thumb base knuckle along side my face, and as my middle finger comes to the corner of my mouth I keep coming, and my thumb base knuckle slides in behind my jaw under my ear.

Terry, do you think that the draw elbow might be a bit high in the first picture on this page?

Bob, no, I really don't.  From 9- 10: O'clock is pretty standard, different positions for different body structures.....however, if you get abovee 10:00 O'clock, you can run into some negative issues.

Here's my elbow on a level shot...probably around the 9:15 position....

     


Please be aware...The elbow doesn't just 'come back farther'...it comes around in a 'J' shape.  Do not be afraid to 'cozy up' to your anchor.

   


BODY POSITION :

Not this.....

     

But this...

     

Not this(red line)...this causes a 'fly away' release and bow torque.


   

Thanks for clarifying Terry. I do see people shooting up around 10:00. Personally, I stay at 9:00 as I have trouble with anything but that area. But like you said, different builds..

Here's another issue folks have....not understanding HOW to draw a bow correctly to obtain alignment.

You do NOT draw with your arm or bicep....that is called 'muscling the bow'....you draw with a rearward rotation like you are going to close a door behind you with your elbow......

OK....the door is in a normal position.

The shooter is where he would stand yet closer to the door so the draw motion would actually shut it...but this is the overhead view of the shooter to show the draw.

     

Up for Tinch....

Terry, How do I get the Bowhunters of trad gang DVD ?
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Sure thing Jim...just click below.....

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I've been reading the various threads on "Terry's Form-Clock."  I reviewed "Masters of the Barebow" Volumes I & II to examine the shooters shoulder positions and all appear to have parallel lines with arrow and shoulders even though some have stances that are more open than others.  Parallel shoulders appears to be a common denominator to accurate shooting regardless of foot position.  Turn and twist, shoot up or down, but keep those shoulders parallel.  Good StufF!

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Thank you all!

If you are having questions on alignment please get the Bowhunters of Tradgang DVD.  It has a section with Terry devoted to it.  Nothing like seeing it in action.

Terry,
Is the bow arm suppose to be bent?  I lock my bow arm and continually slap my arm with the string.  Thoughts?

I have my bow arm straight, but my arm wont straighten out all the way.  If you are getting string slap on your arm, you might need to bend your arm a tad, or you are gripping the bow too far to the inside, or you are torquing the bow or string.

Terry,  I am turning my head so my first anchor is at corner of mouth (first incisor) and then anchor the string at the tip of my nose?   I see in both you and byrons pictures that your head position is inline with your shoulders. Would I shoot better if I didn't turn my head to touch my nose to the string?

If you anchoring your string at the tip of your nose, you may not be getting full extention/proper back tention....most 'nose' anchores are feathers touching the nose which means the nock and string are an inch back and the string is past the nose.

Any way you can film?

No I have no way of filming.  But like I said I first anchor at the corner of my mouth (first incisor tooth) then turn my head slightly until the tip of my nose touches the string, for the second anchor point.  So my nock is about an inch or so past my nose.  I was just wondering of any problems that could arise in slightly turning my head toward the string.