the "D" shape R/D longbow appreciation thread!

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Brianlocal3:
 

there aren't a lot of mild r/d "D" longbows to be found, but there are at least 3 or 4 bowyers i know of that do offer them.

Rob,
I am VERY interested in what bows are being made now that are being built to the continuous curve that you know of. Thank you [/b]

brian, some that come to mind are already mentioned in this thread .... the mohawk (all of vince's bows are mild r/d classic "D" longbows), abbott, robertson, tolke, great northern, kohanna, hornes ---- and others!

[paradocs]

Great Northern Lil Creep, 58"...little more aggressive than the Bushbow, but still a "D" in my book.

[Brianlocal3]

Sweet looker.  How is shooting a 58" longbow?  

And Rob, I kinda new about the others from the thread, but when I was looking at the Abbots it looked like the limbs were straighter/flatter at the tips, definitely still falls within the governing bodies ideas that the distance to the string decreases the whole way to the tips, but not a curved shape.  

the yellowstone I had was a perfect "d" look but it was only 62" and  almost all of these will D up that short, I  like looking at the 66-68 mild D/R to see how they look.

[Bob B.]

Brian, My abbott braces to a nice D shape.  I like it as much as my Deathwish.  It does have less wiggle than the DW but has a longer riser.  It is a very fast bow with real sweet draw and release qualities.

Bob.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Brianlocal3:
... And Rob, I kinda new about the others from the thread, but when I was looking at the Abbots it looked like the limbs were straighter/flatter at the tips, definitely still falls within the governing bodies ideas that the distance to the string decreases the whole way to the tips, but not a curved shape.  

the yellowstone I had was a perfect "d" look but it was only 62" and  almost all of these will D up that short, I  like looking at the 66-68 mild D/R to see how they look.

sometimes the tip flat spot is clearly evident, sometimes it can only be determined with a short steel ruler laid against the tip back.  and sometimes images are misleading, too.

"the edge" is one of those aggressive hybrids that braces to a "D" shape that may or may not have those tip flat spots ... increasing the brace height can help, and is a ploy sometimes used.  :D

[Brianlocal3]

Rob,
Funny you mention the ploy used. I have noticed a lot of pics of "Braces D" bows are of the shorter ones, but when you get into the 66-68 in lengths that reflex really starts to show.  Thanks.


Bob, I reallly want to shoot an abbott someday for sure.

[paradocs]

Smooth and quick, Brian, but I only draw 26"...Jerry says it's good to 28-29"; I'll never know.  Seems quite stable, too.

[Steve Clandinin]

These bows have turned into my favorites to shoot,to me they have it all.

I do not understand what is so bad about a flat spot or even if there is a bit of gain at the tips. I noticed that the longer Robertson a friend was shooting some years back did just that, but it did not seem to ruin its shooting qualities at all.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by pavan:
I do not understand what is so bad about a flat spot or even if there is a bit of gain at the tips. I noticed that the longer Robertson a friend was shooting some years back did just that, but it did not seem to ruin its shooting qualities at all.

there is not a thing "bad" about trad longbow that has some amount of flat spot near or at the limb tips.  that's perfectly fine!

however, with such a longbow, that's not a classic mild r/d "D" longbow.  it's an aesthetics thing, that's all.  no big deal.  it's all good.  promise.      

Then the next question, for a 5'9" (and shrinking) short draw shooter like myself with my little 26" left hand draw length, how much performance difference is there between the 62" bows that I have compared to a 68" R/D? What would happen to the shooting qualities of an R/D bow that was under-stressed at full draw because of its longer length? The Driad boys seem to think longer will always out shoot shorter. That does not seem to be the case with Hill style bows, although I have seen some exceptions to the rules with those, such as, an under drawn bow can have more hand shock.

[Brianlocal3]

Pavan,
You ask the most interesting questions, and really delve deep into a subject, I love that.  Thank you for that.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by pavan:
Then the next question, for a 5'9" (and shrinking) short draw shooter like myself with my little 26" left hand draw length, how much performance difference is there between the 62" bows that I have compared to a 68" R/D? What would happen to the shooting qualities of an R/D bow that was under-stressed at full draw because of its longer length? The Driad boys seem to think longer will always out shoot shorter. That does not seem to be the case with Hill style bows, although I have seen some exceptions to the rules with those, such as, an under drawn bow can have more hand shock.

imho, typically, longer bows offer more shot stability.  but one should pick a bow length that works best for the hunt.

[kbetts]

62"  60# Kimsha Mattawoman II by Tom Parsons.  I love this bow.





I've shot carbon and wood and now I'm on to aluminum.  She'll shoot just about anything.

[Brianlocal3]

Gorgeous bow.  I was eyeballing his Mattawoman I

[kbetts]

I'll take an unbraced pic.  The difference between the two is this one has a slight flip to the tips.  The Mattawoman I is straighter I believe.  I shot both and prefered the II.  Now I want one 64".  I believe it would be my "perfect" bow if there is such a thing.

BTW, it's bacote and wenge, bamboo core, clear glass.  Walnut tip wedges.

[arrow flynn]

Get a light. Wt bow and look for an archery instructer is the correct Protocol. Imho.

[Soonerlongbow]

No pix on computer but I absolutely love my PSE Legacy, 68", 55lbs @ 28."

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by JamesKerr:
... my 3 piece Tomahawk legacy series
 

not at all a mild r/d classic "D" braced longbow - look at the flip to the tips.

[Rob DiStefano]

Originally posted by Soonerlongbow:
No pix on computer but I absolutely love my PSE Legacy, 68", 55lbs @ 28."

now you'd think that with a long 68" length that bow *should* be an r/d "D", but nope, it ain't ... see the tip flip?