Laminated all Wood bow & matching turkey box call

benzy · April 08, 2005, 04:39:00 PM

Osagetree the only thing I took pictures of last night was my 4 year old end her bow. I'm gonna build a tillering board (not stick) tonight, I printed a 3'x6' grid pattern for a backdrop at work. I think it will help with my bows, (actually I just need Mickey to sign me up for the "Ferret School Of Bow Whittlin" summer semester.) I'll shoot some picks of my form and board.

Osagetree · April 11, 2005, 07:16:00 PM

To many run outs! I did not now about the run outs. I thought it did not matter, but after reading some recent posts, I think my work here is going to be in vain..
The wood I bought was sold for backing and it had run outs all over,,, so I thought it would be okay. It said hickory bow backing!

What do you think?

Can I back the backing? LOL

cjones · April 12, 2005, 02:13:00 AM

WoW!! that is alot of runouts on a backing. Might wanna try a silk backing. I'm no expert on backings so you should wait till one of the guru's com along. Very nice looking calls. Gonna have to trade you out of one some day.

Slimpikins · April 13, 2005, 08:25:00 PM

the bow is coming along right nicely! im new to the game also, and i am working on a bow similar right now. its nice to let someone be the guinea pig and tell you all the secrets.

Osagetree · April 15, 2005, 09:30:00 PM

I went ahead and burnished the hickory backing using a large socket. I am going to go ahead and tiller the bow and take my chances with the run outs!

I have the bow on a long string and it is drawn 20",,, pulling wieght is 50lbs.

I should get close to target wieght as I still have plenty of wood to remove.

Here the bow is just bending on my stick.

Osagetree · April 16, 2005, 03:43:00 PM

Time to cut in the string nocks. I mark the guide lines with a pencil.

Cutting in the string

The sharp edge on the big file gets me started and I finish with the small rat tail.

Osagetree · April 23, 2005, 02:04:00 PM

Well, the hickory backing seems to be holding up even after three dozen shots!

It also seems to be holding with out taking on any set.

The tiller is not perfect and I was way under my intended 70lbs draw. It is now at 57lbs which is okay for hunting,,, at least legal in Ohio.

It seems to shoot with some authority though,,, fast, but it does have a little hand shock!

Here is a pic at brace

Here she is at full draw

Here is the profile after three dozen arrows shot

I plan on shooting it a bit more and touching up the lower limb tiller a bit before I put on any finish,,,, Stay tuned and let me know if you see something here that I don't!

Benzy, how is yours coming along?

Sparky · April 23, 2005, 02:30:00 PM

Nice!...I like it. Don't know how I missed this thread as ya was going along. VERY nice job on the tiller my friend...that profile looks sweet!
How's the hand shock? Does she shoot good. Have you introduced her to the box call yet...

Sparky

Osagetree · April 23, 2005, 03:25:00 PM

There is some hand shock but it is not bad. Within three dozen arrows, I was grouping at around 6' at 15yrds.
I will not introduce it to the call until I put on the stain and finish. It wants to look its best when they meet! LOL

sleepyhollow · April 23, 2005, 05:25:00 PM

It may be just the pic. angle, but the right limb looks stiff in both the braced and full draw pics, anyone else see this?

Osagetree · April 23, 2005, 09:43:00 PM

Good eye Sleepyhollow! I tend to agree now that you mentioned it! I hate to loose any more wood though.

sleepyhollow · April 23, 2005, 10:20:00 PM

I wonder if after you take off a little wood from that right limb to even out the tiller if you could then maybe put the bow back on the form and lay a course or two of sinew on her, that will help keep your weight, maybe even pick up a few pounds as well

Osagetree · April 24, 2005, 08:45:00 AM

Thanks for the advise,,, I had thought of sinew but my objective was all wood laminate to mimick the turkey box call.

If it had been a right handed bow, I would give it to my wife as she shoots 45 to 50lbs. It being a lefty it will not work for her.

I like the power of 70lbs and I can shoot it fairly well. But Ohio's legal limit for hunting is 45lbs so if I can keep it above that, I will try hunting with it next fall.

The lower wieght is going to be more of a challenge, but that is why I started making bows in the first place.
Now that I accomplished that, this laminate bow will be just another notch in my different methods for taking Whitetailed deer. I am working on method #12 with this handmade all wood laminate bow. #13 if I count the S-10 pick up truck.LOL

sleepyhollow · April 24, 2005, 09:46:00 AM

Ok then, even though you already have the tip overlays on maybe you can pop them off and shorten the bow a little to increase draw weight

Osagetree · April 24, 2005, 09:55:00 AM

I am glad you caught this thread! You are a thinking man I can tell. Another good thought I must say.

At 66" in lenght, How much can I take off each limb and still maintain a 28" draw?

Cutting 1" off each limb, how much weight would I gain per inch? 5 lbs?

Osagetree · April 24, 2005, 09:59:00 AM

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sleepyhollow · April 24, 2005, 10:36:00 AM

I would start at just a half inch off each limb, check tiller at brace, adjust if needed, and start pulling to your draw to check weight, not so sure about taking off a whole inch to leave yourself a selfbow of 64" for a 28" draw unless you feel lucky or are a betting man

BOWHUNTER · April 27, 2005, 12:22:00 AM

Utoh....Im headed down the wrong road!

I make box calls too, went hunting hogs in thick woods carried a 4-5lbs bow all over creation and decided all ya need is 15 yards..why not make it a real challenge!

So I started this Recurve selfbow...and im picky and like laminations too....Hmmmmmmm

So far
Stroker II longbox 1
Selfbow recurve 0

Steve

Osagetree · September 05, 2006, 08:52:00 PM

Sorry Tradgang members, but I just got back to finishing up this thread.
I hope you've found it interesting.

Here is how I finished it off and followed up;

I had a little bit of two colors of stain. I mixed them together and got this slight red color that I stained the hickory backing with. This helped it blend in with the other woods better

And here is some shots of the final product with matching turkey box call,,,

Over all I am pleased.

The bow shoots very well and I am confeident I can take Turkey's or Whitetails with this bow.

I will be building another one in the future. This was easy compared to building a selfbow from tree to bow.

I liked this project so well, I decided to match some turkey calls to my plain and snake skinned selfbows....

I think I'm addicted to this stuff.............