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Title: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: bear bowman on February 23, 2016, 02:40:00 PM
I've been really working on my form. I've identified my biggest flaw being my anchor. When I hit it, I shoot really consistent. I have a question for you guys. What can I do to help with this?

If I consciously think about it, I'll hit my anchor. Is this one of those things that will eventually get ingrained? I'm really struggling right now. I'm a fairly new shooter. I went full traditional a few years back then went back to the compound. I've been shooting nothing but trad bows for the last year and I'm finally getting good enough to identify my problems. Now I'm trying to fix them.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: mark Willoughby on February 23, 2016, 02:59:00 PM
One option is to buy a clicker a lot of guys find that that audible "click" helps a great deal in this department
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: K2 on February 23, 2016, 03:16:00 PM
I have been using a set routine each shot and use a clicker to trigger the shot. Stance, keep shoulder down, draw, anchor, expand to get alignment, keep pulling with back muscles until audible clicker (all this happens while picking a spot(unconsciously). If I do this right my hand comes back and thumb touches opposite shoulder and I usually hit what I am looking at.   It has helped me tremendously. Ken
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: bear bowman on February 23, 2016, 03:22:00 PM
Thanks guys. Now when you use the clicker, it sounds like that is what triggers your release. Is that a correct statement? I'm trying to understand the clicker.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: LBR on February 23, 2016, 03:26:00 PM
If you can't get to a Rod Jenkins clinic, Masters of the Barebow Volume III should be a huge help.

Chad
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Roy from Pa on February 23, 2016, 04:58:00 PM
Come to full anchor, hold on target for count of 3, then let the bow back down. Try it in front of a mirror. Just don't release and shoot the mirror...
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: David Mitchell on February 23, 2016, 05:01:00 PM
Yes, the click triggers the shot.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Daz on February 23, 2016, 06:42:00 PM
If you have a safe spot to practice (no kids/animals/stupid people), come to full draw with your eyes closed. Only open your eyes when you have settled in to your form. Then look at what you want to hit and concentrate and follow the rest of your shot sequence(or if really close and safe shoot with eyes closed like true blind bale shooting).

I strongly encourage a verbal or mental shot trigger mantra (like a clicker). Rick Welch uses the word "release" after two "hold its". Some use "hold/focus/release". I also now archers who just say "breathe, breathe" and keep expanding through the shot.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: The Whittler on February 23, 2016, 08:44:00 PM
If you can get your hands on a light weight bow in the 30s or 40lb bow would help.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Etter on February 23, 2016, 08:57:00 PM
These are all temporary solutions for what sounds like target panic. The solution is much simpler than you could ever imagine. Buy the iron mind archery dvd on target panic and your problem can be solved with some work. I had it worse than anyone alive and I can overcome it now thanks to that dvd
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: dirtguy on February 24, 2016, 09:33:00 AM
You need to ask why you don't come to anchor every time.  There can be a few different reasons.

It is possible that you bows draw weight is too heavy and after a few shots, fatigue and lack of concentration set in.  I am a huge advocate of practicing form on a low draw weight bow.  The draw weigh should be so low as never create an issue in you practice.  I recently bought a take down recurve with two sets of limbs.  One set is for form practice, the other for hunting and hunting practice.  

If it is target panic - its all in your head and the methods mentioned above are worth investigating.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: bear bowman on February 24, 2016, 10:01:00 AM
I think you guys may be on to something with the target panic. I will look into that further. Thanks guys
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Shooter#21 on February 24, 2016, 12:02:00 PM
All great advice. No expert here, but my brother and I have shot bows on and off for years. I believe it mostly takes patience and practice. I anchor while trying to keep constant pressure on the string back through elbow with the back engaged also. This can eliminate collapsing on the shot which usually results in an erratic release and a poor shot. Also try to keep bow arm on target until after the arrow impacts. Have confidence and most of all have fun!
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Jakeemt on February 24, 2016, 01:11:00 PM
Sounds like you are snap shooting man. Slow down take your time and make. Every shot your best shot and yes you should consciously be sure you come to anchor and then do yourself a favor and hold a few moments once you do.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Bldtrailer on February 24, 2016, 01:12:00 PM
If you can get a bow of less weight -10 and  blind bail with a safe target. 4foot in front of a safe target ,you close your eyes and concentrate on coming to full draw, FEELING your anchor and release/shooting into the target eyes still shut . do this everyday before you practice till your anchoring improves .  Then make it part of your pre practice without releasing. make it muscle memory
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: Terry Green on February 24, 2016, 03:13:00 PM
Do a search for 'double anchor'....that  may be the missing link...it was for me years ago...and the final link to my best shooting..
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: last arrow on March 22, 2016, 05:18:00 PM
Talk to Joel at Ironmind Hunting.  He does an excellent job of helping people with the mental aspects of shooting as it is probably not a form issue.  His materials can explain in detail how the methods mentioned previously work and how you approach it.
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on March 22, 2016, 05:55:00 PM
What Terry said!
Title: Re: One big obstacle.....for me anyway
Post by: LongStick64 on March 22, 2016, 06:13:00 PM
Close your eyes and draw the bow, where did you anchor ? Don't force yourself to an anchor you think is best, let your body mechanics answer it for you. Too many choose anchor points based on others. Choose the anchor that you can duplicate without conscious effort, and one where it fits you.