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Title: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: Pine on February 25, 2015, 07:32:00 PM
I came across an article that described grabbing the string at the second knuckle . I don't see how you could get a clean release that way .
I get the string in my first knuckle and shoot split .
My brother in law just uses the tips of his fingers and shoots split , half way between the first knuckle and his finger tips .
So how do you hook the string and why ?
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: jt85 on February 25, 2015, 07:37:00 PM
I shoot split and hook in my first knuckle. If I try to grab the string on my finger tips I always end up curling my fingers half way through my draw and rolling my arrow off the shelf. I feel I am more accurate with a little deeper hook.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: on February 25, 2015, 07:47:00 PM
First knuckle. I don't see how second knuckle could even work!

Bisch
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: Msbow on February 25, 2015, 07:51:00 PM
I've heard of that 2nd knuckle release, but I'm like you im not sure how it works. TJ Conrad said in his book to shoot from the finger tips, but I get a cleaner release with a deep hook in the first finger joints. Somewhere I read that the deep hook relaxes your hand and fingers for a better release. If I shoot of the fingertips with a tab that I made. I get all kinds of erratic arrow flight if I hook it deep in the first joint they fly perfect, I dunno, I stay confused about it mostly and just shoot whatever makes my arrows fly right.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: Bowwild on February 25, 2015, 08:16:00 PM
2nd knuckle with a tab. I have less windage issues with that deeper hold than in the first knuckle. The back of the drawing harm is completely flat in a relaxed state. Try hooking the handle of a bucket of water hanging your arm down. Let that hand stretch out.

An Olympic archer coach told me first knuckle (archer's groove) but deeper is better than less deep.

The finger tip hold bends (bows) the back of the hand preventing a relaxed draw hand at anchor which degrades the release.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: longbow fanatic 1 on February 25, 2015, 08:39:00 PM
I grip half way between first knuckle and second knuckle. When I hit anchor, the string moves slightly toward the first knuckle on release.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: VA Elite on February 25, 2015, 08:43:00 PM
Almost at the second knuckle. I was using first knuckle but found the deeper the better for me.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: KyStickbow on February 25, 2015, 09:40:00 PM
First knuckle for me....and 3-under.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: durp on February 25, 2015, 09:50:00 PM
glove...just above the first nuckle like id carry a bucket of water with a relaxed hand...works for me
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: Homebru on February 25, 2015, 10:29:00 PM
I've posted this before. If anybody knows string placement, it would be Kisik Lee.

Here is the string placement recommended on his webpage.  I think the string should stay at the first joint at full draw.  A deep hook is a good thing and when your fingertips relax, the string will be gone.

Shooting on your fingertips like your brother will cause "plucking" of the string.

homebru

     (http://www.kslinternationalarchery.com/Technique/KSLShotCycle/Step03-Stringfingers_small.jpg)
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: Red Beastmaster on February 25, 2015, 10:36:00 PM
It depends on where you start counting knuckles.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: MnFn on February 25, 2015, 11:12:00 PM
I am beginning to see the merit of Bowwild's post.  Sometimes you can't see how it could work until you try it and find out it really does work.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: hitman on February 25, 2015, 11:33:00 PM
First knuckle, split finger.
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: hart2hart on February 26, 2015, 01:18:00 PM
OK,I'll bite 8>)
If I go 1st joint/index fingertip to corner of mouth,I shoot left.
If I go "fingernail" to corner(point of finger straight back toward drawing shoulder)I stay pretty well in line.
Reasons??
I believe it moves the string closer to my cheek and more in line with my dominate eye.
It seems to give me a stronger BT connection(placebo maybe but who cares if it works)and cleans up release issues.
I start with the string in 2nd joint, but it ends up between 1st and 2nd.You'll see it especially on your index finger if you flex that 2nd joint fully.There's naturally a deep valley for the string to settle in.
Don't curl the 3rd joint!!!(proximal..if my 'nat class memories come back correctly)We know what that does.
Food for thought only..Go with what works for you.
Stay warm if that's possible.
Mike
Title: Re: How deep do you grab ?
Post by: gavelguy on February 28, 2015, 09:36:00 PM
I was shooting split off my fingertip pads and have recently gone to a deeper hook (first joint). It is not only quieter but I picked up 5 fps as my draw length increased almost an inch.